At The Threshold: Creativity, Comparing and Coping


Welcome to At the Threshold, a podcast for ministry leaders during this new, unsettled season in the life of the Church. Join hosts Rev. Ashlee Alley Crawford and Rev. Shelly Petz as they host a conversation with and for clergy in order to describe what’s happening, ask questions to help us get “unstuck," and encourage the heart of pastors and leaders in this liminal time in which we find ourselves. Liminal may be a new word. But a new season calls for a new word. Liminal means a threshold from what we’ve always know to … well, we don’t know just yet what life and ministry is becoming. Our goal here is to find a little light at the threshold.

This first episode is a Zoom conversation that Ashlee and Shelly hosted with nearly 30 clergy from the Great Plains Conference. They asked four pastors to serve as a panel, sharing from their experiences leading churches in these first two months after the COVID-19 crisis. The Rev. Stephanie Ahlschwede serves as the Senior Pastor of St. Paul UMC in the Historic Benson Neighborhood in Omaha. The Rev. Isaac Chua is the pastor of two churches, Laurel and Logan Center UMCs in Nebraska. The Rev. Cindi Stewart serves as the Lead Pastor of First United Methodist Church in Columbus, Nebraska. And the Rev. Jeff Clinger serves as the Lead Pastor at First United Methodist Church in Topeka, Kansas. The topic of this discussion was "Creativity, Comparing, and Coping" — three responses that we’ve seen in ourselves and in other pastoral leaders during this new time.


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